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− | + | {{Video Game | |
+ | | Title = Ys III: Wanderers from Ys | ||
+ | | SortTitle = Ys 3" Wanderers from Ys | ||
+ | | Image = Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - MSX2 - Japan.jpg | ||
+ | | ImageDescription = MSX2 - Japan - 1st edition. | ||
+ | | Developer = {{VideoGameDeveloper|Nihon Falcom}} | ||
+ | | Publisher = {{VideoGamePublisher|Nihon Falcom}} | ||
+ | | PublishedYear = 1989 | ||
+ | | PublishedMonth = 07 | ||
+ | | PublishedDay = 28 | ||
+ | | Platforms = {{Platform|Genesis}}, {{Platform|MSX2}}, {{Platform|NES}}, {{Platform|PC-8800}}, {{Platform|PC-9800}}, {{Platform|SNES}}, {{Platform|Sharp X68000}}, {{Platform|TurboGrafx-CD}} | ||
+ | | Genres = {{VideoGameGenre|Action adventure|Action adventure}}, {{VideoGameGenre|Metroidvania|Metroidvania}}, {{VideoGameGenre|Platformer|Platformer}} | ||
+ | | Themes = {{MediaTheme|Action}}, {{MediaTheme|Adventure}}, {{MediaTheme|Fantasy}} | ||
+ | | Series = ''[[Ys (universe)|Ys]]'' | ||
+ | | Distributions = {{VideoGameDistribution|Commercial}} | ||
+ | }} | ||
− | '''''Ys III: Wanderers | + | '''''Ys III: Wanderers from Ys''''' is an action adventure fantasy game developed and published by [[Nihon Falcom]] for the [[PC-9800]] and [[PC-8800]] series on 1989-07-28. It was later ported to several other platforms. It is the third game in the [[Ys (universe)|''Ys'' series]]. |
− | + | ==Personal== | |
+ | {{VideoGameStatus | ||
+ | | Own = | ||
+ | | CantOwn = | ||
+ | | Won = Yes. Genesis port. | ||
+ | | CantWin = | ||
+ | | Finished = 2018-11-28. | ||
+ | }} | ||
− | + | I didn't know about the ''Ys'' series when it was most popular in the late 1980s and early 1990s. I had seen the titles in lists of games, but, because they were mostly Japanese releases, I didn't bother trying to play them. At the end of 2018, I finally decided to try a ''Ys'' game because I saw that ''Ys III'' had several elements of my favorite game genre, [[Metroidvania]]. I began playing the SNES port, but, after discovering how bad it is, I switched to the Genesis port which appealed to me more. | |
− | I | ||
==Review== | ==Review== | ||
− | + | {{Video Game Review|4|5|6|7|3|Genesis}} | |
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+ | {{Spoilers}} | ||
===Good=== | ===Good=== | ||
* The graphics are pretty decent in the 8-bit ports and the Genesis port. However, the graphics look a bit dated by the time the SNES port was made. | * The graphics are pretty decent in the 8-bit ports and the Genesis port. However, the graphics look a bit dated by the time the SNES port was made. | ||
* [[Mieko Ishikawa]] composed a really enjoyable soundtrack with help from [[Yuzo Koshiro]] on a couple tracks. | * [[Mieko Ishikawa]] composed a really enjoyable soundtrack with help from [[Yuzo Koshiro]] on a couple tracks. | ||
− | * The game lets you save and load pretty much everywhere. This is nice considering how easy it is to take damage, so expect a lot of [[save scumming]]. | + | * The game lets you save and load pretty much everywhere. This is nice considering how easy it is to take damage, so expect to do a lot of [[save scumming]]. |
* The NPCs change their dialogue as the game progresses which is nice. | * The NPCs change their dialogue as the game progresses which is nice. | ||
* It has a pretty good ending. | * It has a pretty good ending. | ||
===Bad=== | ===Bad=== | ||
− | * The game caps you at level 12. I ended up hitting the cap a little over halfway through the game. After that, fighting monsters was mostly pointless for the rest of the game and most of the bosses were painfully easy. | + | * The game [[level cap|caps]] you at level 12. I ended up hitting the cap a little over halfway through the game. After that, fighting monsters was mostly pointless for the rest of the game and most of the bosses were painfully easy. |
* Several monsters move so fast it's very hard to avoid taking damage. | * Several monsters move so fast it's very hard to avoid taking damage. | ||
− | * Hit detection is bad in several ports, but especially the SNES where enemies can hit you even when they aren't visually touching you, but your sword also has a huge hit box, so it equals out. | + | * Hit detection is bad in several ports, but especially the SNES where enemies can hit you even when they aren't visually touching you, but your sword also has a huge hit box, so I guess it equals out. |
* A lot of the bosses have attacks that are extremely difficult to dodge, so you basically just mash the attack button and hope you have enough hit points to survive. | * A lot of the bosses have attacks that are extremely difficult to dodge, so you basically just mash the attack button and hope you have enough hit points to survive. | ||
− | * In the Genesis port, the enemies have fairly basic movement patterns, but they even worse in the SNES port. | + | * In the Genesis port, the enemies have fairly basic movement patterns, but they're even worse in the SNES port. |
− | * Enemies don't collide with walls and instead walk right through them. They're usually placed in areas where they won't walk | + | * Enemies don't collide with walls and instead walk right through them. They're usually placed in areas where they won't walk through walls, but sometimes they do. This hurts immersion. |
− | * The animation on the weaker ports (PC- | + | * The animation on the weaker ports (PC-8801 and MSX) is terrible. |
− | * | + | * Since items have liner upgrades, it would have been nice if they were automatically equipped when you acquire them. |
− | * | + | * Dialogue doesn't include the speaker's name, so identifying the speaker is sometimes confusing. Some ports at least color Adol's dialogue, but that's not enough when there are multiple other speakers. |
− | * Despite Dogi being your adventuring companion, he lazes while you do all the hard work. Even if the programmers couldn't code AI for him, they could have at least given him off-screen tasks. | + | * Despite Dogi being your adventuring companion, he lazes about while you do all the hard work. Even if the programmers couldn't code AI for him, they could have at least given him off-screen tasks. |
* The NES and SNES console ports use the start button to pause and select to open the menu. This should have been reversed. | * The NES and SNES console ports use the start button to pause and select to open the menu. This should have been reversed. | ||
* The porters must not have had clear game lore because they use different names and spelling variations for a lot of the locations, and the Genesis port has a lot of typos. | * The porters must not have had clear game lore because they use different names and spelling variations for a lot of the locations, and the Genesis port has a lot of typos. | ||
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===Box Art=== | ===Box Art=== | ||
<gallery> | <gallery> | ||
− | Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - MSX2 - Japan.jpg|The PC- | + | Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - MSX2 - Japan.jpg|The PC-8801, PC-9801, and MSX2 boxes all used a box with purple marbling, a small generic fantasy painting, and the Ys logo. It's interesting, but doesn't explain the game at all. |
Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - X68 - Japan.jpg|The X68000 manages to make the box look even more boring. | Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - X68 - Japan.jpg|The X68000 manages to make the box look even more boring. | ||
Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - TGCD - Japan.jpg|The PC Engine CD-ROM2 basically mashes two earlier boxes together. | Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - TGCD - Japan.jpg|The PC Engine CD-ROM2 basically mashes two earlier boxes together. | ||
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===Documentation=== | ===Documentation=== | ||
<gallery> | <gallery> | ||
− | Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - TGCD - USA - Manual.pdf|Manual TurboGrafx-CD. | + | Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - TGCD - USA - Manual.pdf|Manual - TurboGrafx-CD - USA. |
− | Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - GEN - USA - Manual.pdf|Manual Genesis. | + | Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - GEN - USA - Manual.pdf|Manual - Genesis - USA. |
− | Ys III - Wanderers | + | Ys III - Wanderers from Ys - SNES - USA - Manual.pdf|Manual - SNES - USA. |
− | Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - SNES - Japan - Ad.jpg|Super Famicom | + | Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - SNES - Japan - Ad.jpg|Ad - Super Famicom - Japan. |
</gallery> | </gallery> | ||
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Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - SNES - Map - Eldam Mountains.png|SNES, Eldam Mountains. | Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - SNES - Map - Eldam Mountains.png|SNES, Eldam Mountains. | ||
Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - SNES - Map - Ballacetine Castle.png|SNES, Ballacetine Castle. | Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - SNES - Map - Ballacetine Castle.png|SNES, Ballacetine Castle. | ||
− | Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - SNES - Map - Galbalan's Islande.png|SNES, Galbalan's | + | Ys III - Wanderers From Ys - SNES - Map - Galbalan's Islande.png|SNES, Galbalan's Island. |
</gallery> | </gallery> | ||
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+ | ===Videos=== | ||
+ | {{YouTube|oXT1bwuOa7o|Longplay - Genesis.}} | ||
+ | {{YouTube|97XMk6z80b0|Longplay - NES.}} | ||
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+ | ==Play Online== | ||
+ | {{PlayOnline|https://www.retrogames.cc/nes-games/ys-iii-wanderers-from-ys-japan.html|Famicom}}, {{PlayOnline|https://www.retrogames.cc/genesis-games/ys-iii-usa.html|Genesis}}, {{PlayOnline|https://www.retrogames.cc/genesis-games/ys-wanderers-from-ys-japan.html|Master System}}, {{PlayOnline|https://www.retrogames.cc/turbografxcd-games/ys-iii-wanderers-from-ys.html|TurboGrafx-CD}}, {{PlayOnline|https://www.retrogames.cc/snes-games/ys-iii-wanderers-from-ys-usa.html|SNES}}, {{PlayOnline|https://www.retrogames.cc/snes-games/ys-iii-wanderers-from-ys-japan.html|Super Famicom}} | ||
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+ | ==Representation== | ||
+ | {{Representation | ||
+ | | Media = Video games | ||
+ | | StrongFemaleCharacterStatus = Fail | ||
+ | | StrongFemaleCharacterNotes = There are a couple minor women and a damsel in distress, but nothing important. | ||
+ | | BechdelTestStatus = Fail | ||
+ | | BechdelTestNotes = No women talk to each other. | ||
+ | | StrongPOCCharacterStatus = Fail | ||
+ | | StrongPOCCharacterNotes = Everyone appears to be white. | ||
+ | | QueerCharacterStatus = Fail | ||
+ | | QueerCharacterNotes = There are no queer characters. | ||
+ | }} | ||
==Titles== | ==Titles== | ||
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! Language !! Native !! Transliteration !! Translation | ! Language !! Native !! Transliteration !! Translation | ||
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− | | English || Ys III: Wanderers | + | | English || Ys III: Wanderers from Ys || || |
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− | | Japanese || イースIII – ワンダラーズフロムイース || Isu Suri – Wandarazu | + | | Japanese || イースIII – ワンダラーズフロムイース || Isu Suri – Wandarazu furomu Isu || Ys III: Wanderers from Ys |
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{{Link|MobyGames|https://www.mobygames.com/game/ys-iii-wanderers-from-ys}} | {{Link|MobyGames|https://www.mobygames.com/game/ys-iii-wanderers-from-ys}} | ||
{{Link|Wikipedia|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ys_III:_Wanderers_from_Ys}} | {{Link|Wikipedia|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ys_III:_Wanderers_from_Ys}} | ||
+ | {{Link|SegaRetro|https://segaretro.org/Ys_III:_Wanderers_from_Ys}} | ||
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Ys III: Wanderers from Ys is an action adventure fantasy game developed and published by Nihon Falcom for the PC-9800 and PC-8800 series on 1989-07-28. It was later ported to several other platforms. It is the third game in the Ys series.
Contents
Personal
Own? | No. |
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Won? | Yes. Genesis port. |
Finished | 2018-11-28. |
I didn't know about the Ys series when it was most popular in the late 1980s and early 1990s. I had seen the titles in lists of games, but, because they were mostly Japanese releases, I didn't bother trying to play them. At the end of 2018, I finally decided to try a Ys game because I saw that Ys III had several elements of my favorite game genre, Metroidvania. I began playing the SNES port, but, after discovering how bad it is, I switched to the Genesis port which appealed to me more.
Review
4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 3 |
Best Version: Genesis
— This section contains spoilers! —
Good
- The graphics are pretty decent in the 8-bit ports and the Genesis port. However, the graphics look a bit dated by the time the SNES port was made.
- Mieko Ishikawa composed a really enjoyable soundtrack with help from Yuzo Koshiro on a couple tracks.
- The game lets you save and load pretty much everywhere. This is nice considering how easy it is to take damage, so expect to do a lot of save scumming.
- The NPCs change their dialogue as the game progresses which is nice.
- It has a pretty good ending.
Bad
- The game caps you at level 12. I ended up hitting the cap a little over halfway through the game. After that, fighting monsters was mostly pointless for the rest of the game and most of the bosses were painfully easy.
- Several monsters move so fast it's very hard to avoid taking damage.
- Hit detection is bad in several ports, but especially the SNES where enemies can hit you even when they aren't visually touching you, but your sword also has a huge hit box, so I guess it equals out.
- A lot of the bosses have attacks that are extremely difficult to dodge, so you basically just mash the attack button and hope you have enough hit points to survive.
- In the Genesis port, the enemies have fairly basic movement patterns, but they're even worse in the SNES port.
- Enemies don't collide with walls and instead walk right through them. They're usually placed in areas where they won't walk through walls, but sometimes they do. This hurts immersion.
- The animation on the weaker ports (PC-8801 and MSX) is terrible.
- Since items have liner upgrades, it would have been nice if they were automatically equipped when you acquire them.
- Dialogue doesn't include the speaker's name, so identifying the speaker is sometimes confusing. Some ports at least color Adol's dialogue, but that's not enough when there are multiple other speakers.
- Despite Dogi being your adventuring companion, he lazes about while you do all the hard work. Even if the programmers couldn't code AI for him, they could have at least given him off-screen tasks.
- The NES and SNES console ports use the start button to pause and select to open the menu. This should have been reversed.
- The porters must not have had clear game lore because they use different names and spelling variations for a lot of the locations, and the Genesis port has a lot of typos.
- The final boss is really annoying to fight.
Ugly
- Across the various ports, the player control is pretty bad. Movement is a bit difficult to control, jumping is a bit jagged, attacking doesn't feel fluid at all, and the down-strike on a jump attack is odd. The SNES port is especially bad, the Genesis is one of the better ones. The bad controls really become annoying in the Clock Tower.
- Neither the player nor the monsters recoil from getting hit. This is a terrible way to handle combat because, with such a short invincibility timeout after getting hit, monsters can walk through the player and cause damage over and over again.
Media
Box Art
Documentation
Maps
Videos
Play Online
Famicom, Genesis, Master System, TurboGrafx-CD, SNES, Super Famicom
Representation
Strong female character? | Fail | There are a couple minor women and a damsel in distress, but nothing important. |
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Bechdel test? | Fail | No women talk to each other. |
Strong person of color character? | Fail | Everyone appears to be white. |
Queer character? | Fail | There are no queer characters. |
Titles
Language | Native | Transliteration | Translation |
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English | Ys III: Wanderers from Ys | ||
Japanese | イースIII – ワンダラーズフロムイース | Isu Suri – Wandarazu furomu Isu | Ys III: Wanderers from Ys |
Links
- Video Games
- 1989 Video Games
- Video games developed by Nihon Falcom
- Video games published by Nihon Falcom
- Genesis Games
- MSX2 Games
- NES Games
- PC-8800 Games
- PC-9800 Games
- SNES Games
- Sharp X68000 Games
- TurboGrafx-CD Games
- Video Game Genre - Action adventure
- Video Game Genre - Metroidvania
- Video Game Genre - Platformer
- Media Theme - Action
- Media Theme - Adventure
- Media Theme - Fantasy
- Software Distribution Model - Commercial
- Video Games I Don't Own
- Video Games I've Beaten
- Video Game Rating - 4
- Video Game Graphics Rating - 6
- Video Game Sound Rating - 7
- Video games which can be played online
- Video games without a strong female character
- Video games that fail the Bechdel test
- Video games without a strong person of color character
- Video games without a queer character
- Video Game Prime Order - Adventure, Action, Strategy
- Trope - Damsel In Distress